Sunday 12 May 2013

Updated!! One Victim's Experiences: Police Treatment in CSA Investigation

As some are aware, a friend of mine has chosen in the past to share some of her experiences, very bravely, with the use of this blog.
Today she has found the courage to do so again with her take on Police Attitudes  toward historic Child Sexual Abuse.

Why I wont engage with pallial

November last year was a scary time for me, emotionally and physically and mentally. One Sunday morning I logged onto the BBC website, and there it was, the breaking news of the scale of abuse in North Wales Children's Homes. I was at first shocked that finally it was out there, and upset at the same time because I knew what lay ahead.

As someone who has been through the care system my experience of sexual abuse is different from yours, my abusers were paid to take care of me, as well as sexually abusing me, they physically and mentally abused me also. My abusers all knew each other and protected each other. As a 12 year old I had worked that out. I accept abuse is abuse, rape is rape, if you haven’t been in care, you wont have been made available to paedophiles, and when you were older and you felt brave enough to confront not only what happened to you, but to inform the police, they disbelieve you. The Police in my opinion in 1999 starting point was that your lying, that your to damaged to be believed. Add to that, what people like me have been saying since the 1960’s this abuse was organized, wide spread, and as our abusers told us, we would never be believed., I knew I was the victim of state sponsored child abuse, because the authorities knew and did nothing about it, therefore my abuse was expected.  I was told in 1999, when one of my abusers was still alive, that as I had been given cigarettes by one, this legally was judged to me a contract between us, he had paid me for raping me, I was 12 years old. So I then, for me any justice would have to wait, attitudes would need to change, and maybe the law itself would change. So when I read those headlines that Sunday, I thought the time had come.

So I did what  I was advised to do and contacted my Local Police Force to report yet again the abuse I have experienced. They didn’t see it as a priority and I respect that to them its is not, but I feel with the ramifications of my abuse each day, I have learnt that you have to wait for justice and a chance to be heard. An appointment was made for an officer from Warwickshire Police was made to come out to my home and interview me. Im a well educated product of the system, what our  abusers forgot was that we grow up, and despite they best efforts I manage to live a reasonably normal life.

On the evening the police attended my property, I was interviewed by a policewomen with the interpersonal skills of  idiot.  When I detailed my abuse whilst in the care of Byrn Alyn, the response I got was ‘that happended to you?’ I felt I had to defend myself. If that wasn’t bad enough when I further detailed other abuse, I told that my chances of prosecution were none, that the CPS didnt act on these cases, they were a waste of police time, and I was wasting my time. The Police women asked my partner how I was coping, did she think I was fit for a police video interview. When I challenged her on what she was saying to me, she told me she was telling me as it was. It was all about putting me off making a statement. This was a very upsetting experience, and the filth was asked to leave.  Even though I was given an incident number, Warwickshire Police have never contacted me to take this further. I did speak to the Officers seargent, even though the officer took no notes she managed to write about 6 pages. Apparently according to the officer I had previously made allegations about my time at Bryn Alyn, I hadn’t, that I do know. For me this was my final opportunity to get justice, I had previously tried and failed.  Here we go again I thought, if its previously been investigated why bother? You know what, all this made me feel that I would rather kill myself than ever deal with people like that again. Well done Warwickshire Police, your service to me was immense. Like I have said, they have never come back to me about this.

Being ex byrn Alyn, I pushed the issue and after a period of recovery after the Warwickshire police incident I contacted operation Pallial. After a quick are you reporting sexual or physical abuse, I advised that whilst one of my abusers was based at Bryn alyn in wrexham, I was at Cotsbrook Hall in Shropshire. This home was named in the Waterhouse Report. They took my details and told me that I didn’t fall within there remit. They told me they would forward my details to West Mercia Police. Very quickly, after less than half an hour West Mercia Police called me, asked me specific questions, who when, any witnesses, can anyone else confirm this etc etc, West Merica advised me that I either needed to go to Telford Police Station to make a statement. I advised that Telford and Shropshire were not my favorite places and I declined, they said they would be in touch with my local force to arrange an interview.

Great the professional people from Warwickshire, don’t waste you time, we don’t believe you, you ex care scum bag. The scum from Warwickshire called me to make an appointment for me to go in to make a statement, I was advised I would be interviewed by trained people. I advised I wanted to take legal advise as from what I was being told, I would be involved in multiple investigations, spanning Coventry to North Wales, anything upto three different Forces, indeed, technically an incident took place whilst on an outward bound course in Cumbria, would that single incident be dealt with my Cumbria Police?

I decided against at that point making any allegations about my time at Bryn Alyn, for me the real damage lay elsewhere. I advised Warwickshire Police about this, they phoned me almost daily to make a statement. I was told that I needed to sign a statement stating that I at this time didn’t want to proceed, but when ready I would. This was not a nice meeting, I was told that the Police had chanced, they were not the same police they were in 80’s. This I found is statement to be very ironic. Same old, same old if you ask me. The following day West Mercia police called me, I was shopping and the police man was prising information from me, it hard they just keep on asking, keep on pushing answers out of you, demanding names, so they can have the full details for when they do interview me.

The following day, I was arrested by Warwickshire Police! I am currently being maliciously prosecuted for something I can prove I didn’t do. My abusers will never face justice, or even a police interview. They got away with killing a 12 year old (metaphoric), and they are still killing the same 39 year old, slowly and with complete contempt. Simply by being in care, my rights were and still are very much less than anyone else.  What Warwickshire Police have done is to undermine me and my credibility, simply because they value their public image more than protecting vulnerable children. My Abusers are still out there, and because just one was based in North Wales, and I was abused in Shropshire, I don’t come under Pallial.


E has now been told she cannot get legal aid to assist her through these charges falsely laid by her ex employer, as her money gets paid into somebody elses bank account (she has no account in her name) and that her financial assessment is taken from the bank records at the time of application.
Legal representation is estimated to reach £1000 for a day in Crown Court, that is without any prep work etc.
She finds herself facing the mercy of the Courts this Friday, undefended as things currently stand.

Free the Telford One!!!


  1. Firstly i want to thank you for this very frank and brave account and i agree with you 100% as my own experience says exactly the same, abused whilst in care and funny thing is my abuser was caught and punished but as i could not at that time articulate what had happend the police went on to inform ss and my parents that i had not been abused and that i was in a homosexual relationship with him and they were not taking any further action.
    When i complained and provided documentary evidence of this i was not taken seriously by the south wales police, i did however record the "trained idiots" that they sent to see me and it reveals that they would rather try to find a way of making me responsable for what i endured than a complete failure on there part, i do have the final tier appeal to go yet but yet this far i am not filled with hope, but now i do not have the sense of shame that i carried for so long.
    Keep your spirits up.

  2. Absolutely shocking. I wouldn't blame the writer for not co-operating, but it doesn't get you the justice you deserve.

    Would you consider contacting Mark Williams-Thomas, the criminologist and child protection expert who exposed Savile last year? He has often said anyone who felt they couldn't talk to the police could talk to him:

    He's on twitter @mwilliamsthomas
    His website is:
    His email:

  3. I am so saddened and angry to read this, I want you to know that I am willing you on and will do all I can to tell people your story....this needs to be known by the general public. please keep fighting and spreading the word....people are starting to research online which is how I found you, the more know the better.

  4. I am also here - I have read every one of your words and I too want you to know I will tell your story to as many people as I can.

  5. First, a big hug to you from a single mom in Tennessee, U.S.! I am so truly sorry you went through such horrors. Second, please know you are believed by those of us outside of the corrupted government institutions that are an epic fail not only in the U.K., but in the U.S. and elsewhere. My suggestion to you and anyone else in this situation who now have your own homes...get video/audio surveillance installed, with notices that anyone on your property is under surveillance, then do your best to have any contact with the pedophile enabling police to have to come to you to do the interview...THIS way, you will have documented proof of just how dismissive and abusive the law enforcement is, proof you can then upload all over the internet! It is time for A L L corrupt government officials to be exposed like this, including the police. The same thing they tell us also applies to them, if you have nothing to hide, why worry about surveillance, right? Turning the tables is the only way I see to shame them into actually protecting US against THEM, at least to bring the criminals to justice! Hang in there, a lot of people out here are on your side!

  6. So sickening.

    Please look at the following links to try and realise that it is about a mass cover up why no action is being taken and not because of you as an individual.

    I admire and respect this brave survivor of this scum!

    I have an idea; why doesn't some brave soul take out an international citizen arrest warrant to detain the untouchables for breaching the Human Rights of Children. In case you aren't aware this is why the pope quit (the 1st to do so) and why queenie isn't going abroad (ROFL this would be one to test Icke with and for him to demonstrate that he isn't one of them)

    1. Good point however Icke....I have not much hope in. Try Kevin Annett, he is great.

  7. Wow, I am sickened to hear what you have been through and kind of surprised to find that some of it is similar to what happened to me. I reported abuse in 2008 and was treated like dirt and within a year was a criminal after 28 years of clean record and having never done anything wrong.
    I have been ruined, because I reported abuse. I am sorry that they did this to you as well. I know the nightmare of cover ups and police corruption and I hope that you get justice. Don't give up.

  8. So sorry to hear of your struggles. Don't ever give up. You are a very special person who deserves peace and happiness. This Satanic Ritual Abuse is rampant, even here in the USA. So are the perpetrators who try to silence their victims. Know that you are believed. Keep fighting. You are in my prayers...Judy Byington, Author, "Twenty-Two Faces: Inside the Extraordinary Life of Jenny Hill and Her Twenty-Two Multiple Personalities": the biography of the only known survivor-intended-victim of a Satanic human sacrifice ceremony that took place Summer Solstice June 21 1965 in Garden Grove California.

  9. Hi. I sympathise deeply here, with your previous and ongoing experiences.
    Could you please help us understand one thing better, though?
    What did the police charge you with? Was it something along the lines of wasting police time, or obstructing the course of justice?
    The systematic wrongs the police can be can be heinous.

    1. I believe she was accused of theft.
      Her wages had gone unpaid for a couple of months and she was told by her former employee to take stock in lieu of monies owed.
      After a work dispute she quit and was accused of taking stock items in revenge.


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